What does Verified Trial limit mean in available license list?Answered

Hi, I hope I am not wasting your time with simple questions but unfortunately I could not understand following points(Although I have already read https://wyday.com/limelm/help/trials/ verified and unverified trial sections)

1-I can not understand what “verified trials: 1” statistic means under my LimeLM “Account" tab\"Your account" title . 

-I have no trial(verified or unverified) license in my free account(just regular ones so I manage my expiration date with license field) but the “verified trials: ” shown as "1". 

2-What does max verified trials number under "Available Plans" means? 

-For example, max verified trial is 200 for free plan, but free activation limit(The number of max trial and verified licenses) is just 10, so how is it possible to have 200 verified trial anyway if activation is limited with 10?

Thanks a lot in advance.

I found an answer here:

https://wyday.com/forum/t/4666/counting-of-trials-and-file-path-of-activation-data/#post-21724

1- But as I already wrote, somehow I do not have any trial license in my list, so I did not expect that 1 device should use my trial account.

2-So does it mean that 
For example:  in free plan, I am allowed to have 10 license keys max in my account, and the users are allowed to deactivate and activate these license keys  on   max  200 different devices.

Hi Unfortunately I could not get answer yet.  I am at the end of the beta test phase, unfortunately just this point open. if I can get an answer, I am planning to subscribe for solo plan.  Thanks a lot in advance.

Answer

1- But as I already wrote, somehow I do not have any trial license in my list, so I did not expect that 1 device should use my trial account.

You have multiple free accounts (which, is violating our terms of service). Our automated systems will wipe out all the duplicate free accounts soon. (We do them in batches at random intervals). Or, upgrade one to a paying account and we'll manually remove the other duplicates.

But in your free accounts, yes you're using verified trials. Check every product version you've created. Our system has correctly recorded them. See the “Trial”, “Trial2”, and “MacOS Trial 1 day” versions in your LimeLM accounts.

For example:  in free plan, I am allowed to have 10 license keys max in my account, and the users are allowed to deactivate and activate these license keys  on   max  200 different devices.

Nope. Activations are for people who have purchased your software in one form or another.

Verified trials are for trials.

These topics are covered extensively in our docs:

https://wyday.com/limelm/help/activations/

https://wyday.com/limelm/help/trials/

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I am really sorry for the multiple accounts. With the reason that I cannot delete product keys in free version, I could not achieve to finish my tests(somehow I could not understand trial version) just with 10 product keys. Actually I have already tried myself to delete the accounts, which are not used but I could not find such an option.

I have already registered with solo plan with “mrprotect” account today. So you can delete others. I am sorry again, I did not mean to violate your terms of service. It was just testing purpose.

I will check verified trial versions concept again. I guess I can understand better now, if I can delete my product keys with solo plan :)

Sorry but I cannot understand the max allowed “verified trial” value:

In my mrprotect account(solo plan), I have created a trial version(I set “Trial length (in days)” field to 2 so I made it trial). But in my account tab I see that although I created and activated just one trial product key(There is no other product key in my account), my “allocated activations” is increasing also to 1. It means that I cannot create 6.000 verified trials with my account, because it will be limited after 300 because of my activation limit.

Products 1
Product keys 1
Allocated activations 1
Floating licenses 0 
Verified trials 1
Users 1

After this comment of you:“Nope. Activations are for people who have purchased your software in one form or another. Verified trials are for trials.” I would expected that if I have created and activated one trial, just “verified trials” counter should count up(not “allocated activations”)? what does 6.000 means then?

Thanks a lot in advance.

Answer

Activations are for product keys. They're for sold products.

Verified trials have their own counter (much larger). They're for trials of your products.

If you're using the TurboActivate Wizard it will start a verified trial the first time you launch it. If you're just using the TurboActivate API you're in full control over when trials start.

Hi, thank for your response but unfortunately it is not an answer to my question :( Could you please give me a direct answer(an example with numbers. not the theory) for this explicit question. I guess I am a little bit stupid to understand it: 

"Whenever I create a trial product key and verified it from server, these both values are increasing:

Allocated activations 1
Verified trials 1

So at the end, I cannot create and verify 6.000 verified trial as It is described in solo plan, because it will be limited after 300 product key creation(Allocated activations). Could you please explain me what 6.000 max value is then?"

I am really sorry asking the same question again and again. But I cannot understand it :(. I would appreciate if you could answer exactly above question. I have already read all descriptions in your website before. Maybe because of my pure english, I need some numbers to understand.

Thanks a lot for your supports.

"Whenever I create a trial product key and verified it from server, these both values are increasing:

Because you're using the TurboActivate Wizard to test things. Like I said above, running this on a new machine will generate a new verified trial by-default. Even if you just run it and exit it.

Use the TurboActivate API directly and you will have full control over exactly when verified trials start.

A product key, on the other hand, is for purchased products. It has 1 or more “activation” associated with it. How they're counted and allocated are described in the articles I linked above.

Make sense?

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Thanks for your fast response.

“Because you're using the TurboActivate Wizard to test things.” → I am not using wizard(and I have never used before), I am just using API as you mentioned. 

Do you mean that:
If I am using Turboactive API(Not Wizard) and I create a product key for a trial version and verify it from server, just “Verified Trials” should increase 1(not allocated activations) ?

Even, If I just create a product key for a trial version from LimeLM(even not verified it from server so I am not using any part of my code), my "allocated activation"is increasing 1. So there is nothing to do with my Turboactive or my code. In that case, my “allocated activations” will always limit my max number of verified trials? So I can never reach 6.000. 

Thanks a lot for your patience.  

Look at your code and see your use of TA_UseTrial(). That starts a trial.