FastExcelI don't understand the cumulative activations limit: say I take solo. The limit is total 300 activations (not monthly): is this per year or what period? So if i use 100 activations per month for my product what happens after 3 months?
The 300 activation limit is a total limit. You can upgrade to the basic account when you reach the limit. This total activation limit allows smaller companies to afford licensing that's high quality and typically costs several thousand dollars per year.
You can find licensing that's cheaper -- but you'll be hard pressed to find licensing that matches our quality. We have a free plan (10 activations) if you just want to try it out.
Tell me if this helps.
FastExcelOk so at 100 per month after 12 months i have have to upgrade to the next plan and after a few years running at 100/month I have to upgrade to the unlimited plan?This does not make sense!!!!
We realize our pricing model isn't perfect. Smaller companies should pay less and bigger companies should pay more. We're open to suggestions.
The value of LimeLM is the increased revenue due to reduced casual piracy. This is accomplished by our hardware-locked licensing algorithm. That is, we take a "fingerprint" of the computer and when a customer uses a product key for your product they are limited to that computer. So instead of sharing product keys across hundreds or thousands of computers they now have to buy licenses for all those computers.
Now, like I said above, you can find cheaper licensing products. The trouble is finding quality licensing. That is, a product that uses "hardware-locked" licensing (to reduce casual piracy) but doesn't bother legit users. This is a very hard balance. I would be shocked if you could find a cheap product (under $5K/year) that did this well. There are a thousand subtleties to properly locking your product to a single computer without bothering the user. I can go into these subtleties in depth if you want.
If you find LimeLM isn't giving you increased revenue (that is, revenue beyond what you're already making) then you can cancel your account and we'll help you move to another licensing solution. The existing licenses you sold to customers will still work -- you just won't have to pay for LimeLM anymore.
FastExcelYour current plan gives a strong incentive for your customers to only stay with you for a short period of time. That does not seem like a good business model to me.
I would suggest that you create an alternate set of licensing plan prices that are based on total activations per year rather than total lifetime activations, plus one or more very simple plan: a price per activation with a minimum charge per month.
Your current plan gives a strong incentive for your customers to only stay with you for a short period of time. That does not seem like a good business model to me.
We see our customers & potential customers in 2 groups:
Right now our pricing assumes every company is in the first group (revenue is increasing year to year). But you're right, if you fall into the second group then buying LimeLM doesn't make sense.
I would suggest that you create an alternate set of licensing plan prices that are based on total activations per year rather than total lifetime activations, plus one or more very simple plan: a price per activation with a minimum charge per month.
This sounds like a good idea. Email me at support@wyday.com and we can hash out a fair pricing model.
MusicMan3001I agree with FastExcel. Your product looks interesting, but your pricing structure is a little bit strange. What happens when the user base stops growing? You can't expect a company to expand forever. My company, and I'm sure many other potential customers for you, fall into category 2 as you explained. So you're alienating a lot of potential customers.
FastExcel's suggested pricing models make more sense to me. I would probably find it reasonable to pay a certain amount for 300 activations/year.
You can't expect a company to expand forever.
No, but companies in just about every market can grow large enough so that the Max plan is a negligible monthly expense.
LimeLM isn't cheap -- it's very high quality.
FastExcel's suggested pricing models make more sense to me. I would probably find it reasonable to pay a certain amount for 300 activations/year.
Email me at support@wyday.com and we can talk about different pricing.
MusicMan3001Sorry, I didn't mean to say that your product wasn't high quality.
I'll be in touch.
Thanks!
I would suggest that you create an alternate set of licensing plan prices that are based on total activations per year rather than total lifetime activations, plus one or more very simple plan: a price per activation with a minimum charge per month.
I am glad that I am not the only person who feels that the current pricing is very limiting. FastExcel's suggestion is definitely what I am looking for - total number of activation per year and/or price per activation.
This thread is almost 1 year old. I assume that alternative pricing plans are not in the future, right?
He never emailed us to discuss pricing alternatives so the discussion ended there. Email us what you think is a fair price and model and we'll think about it.
+1 for me.My tool will be cheap, i am not a big company (i am alone, i created my tool in my extra time).
I will be like your example : "Small companies with no growth or small growth. (they get new customers, but revenue year to year is about the same)".
It will be very difficult for me to pay every month (sometime, i don't know if i will have buyers every month (sometimes no buyers some months), with a exponential price.I price by activations (like 300 activations for $, 1000 activations for $...) will be a better model price for me (and other little people like me).
When i will finish my tool, i think i will email you to see if we can have a solution, because your product is very interesting, and you do a good support.
